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roxolotltoday at 2:55 PM4 repliesview on HN

This doesn't seem particularly formal. I still remain unconvinced reducing is really going to be valuable. Code obviously is as formal as it gets but as you trend away from that you quickly introduce problems that arise from lack of formality. I could see a world in which we're all just writing tests in the form of something like Gherkin though.


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eterpstoday at 6:33 PM

> I could see a world in which we're all just writing tests in the form of something like Gherkin though.

That works great in practice, Gherkin even has a markdown dialect [1].

If you combine it with a tool like aico [2] you can have a really effective development workflow.

[1] https://github.com/cucumber/gherkin/blob/main/MARKDOWN_WITH_...

[2] https://github.com/jurriaan/aico

hrmtst93837today at 6:22 PM

People seem weirdly eager to talk to LLMs in proto-code instead of fixing the base problem that LLMs are just unreliable interpreters. If your tool needs a new human-friendly DSL to avoid the ambiguity of plain English, maybe what you really want is to be writing actual code or specs with a type system and feedback loop. Any halfway formalism gives a false sense of precision, and you still get blindsided by the same model quirks, just dressed up differently.

tasukitoday at 3:46 PM

> I could see a world in which we're all just writing tests in the form of something like Gherkin though.

Yes, and the implementation... no one actually cares about that. This would be a good outcome in my view. What I see is people letting LLMs "fill in the tests", whereas I'd rather tests be the only thing humans write.

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xhkkffbftoday at 3:24 PM

While I'm also a bit skeptical, I think some formalism could really simplify everything. The programming world has lots of words that mean close to the same thing (subroutine, method, function, etc. ). Why not choose one and stick to it for interactions with the LLM? It should save plenty of complexity.