I'm introverted but very glad I have the option of working from the office and being among fellow staff, we also have a lunchtime exercise club once a week. It's much better for my mental health.

In fact, I've added two days working outside of home instead of one because of the benefits. I think 3 days home/2 days office is the sweet spot.

and if you're talking to somebody who doesn't care about climate change just substitute "climate change" with "traffic"

It's bad for the EcOnOmY, less wear and tear in cars, less jobs for mechanics, less gas consumed, less lunch bought in fast food chain, &c.

The entire system is designed around making the numbers go up, not down

WFH was great to begin with, but as somebody living alone, the isolation starts to have an effect after a while when you're 'working alone' too

And for many people WFH has other problems - if you're a dual-WFH couple in a small home, lack of home office space is a very real problem. (Although if WFH was a permanent thing, many people could choose less expensive places to live, and have more space)

Still, anything to eliminate a miserable and environmentally wasteful commute.

Don't forget about holders of commercial real estate debt and the owners of commercial real estate and restaurants who depend on foot traffic!

Except driving in the U.S. following the pandemic was significantly higher than driving before the pandemic even though WFH was much higher.

This claim might be true but it’s simply not showing up in the data which suggests that even if true, the effect is probably minor.

> is well loved by everyone who participates (except management).

So? The only people who matter are shareholders and their proxies (management). To everyone else: you don't matter as much as you think you do, quit being selfish and be happy you get anything at all. The world doesn't revolve around you.

> is well loved by everyone who participates

You don't speak for me :)

I hate it.

I love WFH but how is it a win climate change solution for anyone outside of the USA? If my office building WFH, instead of heating a building we need to heat 500 people homes all day. And most of the people commute by public transport.

I know it's a meme on HN to say everyone likes WFH, but I (and many but not ICs around me) thrive more in person.

I am 100% more effective in person where I can dev and my desk and bounce ideas off if team mates around me verbally. This can be recreated in a remote environment by having things like a team Discord that folks sit on, but it can feel forced at times (just like communiting to the office I suppose).

My take might be heavily skewed though. I am in games and our environment is highly collaborative.