Is it politics or ideology to recognize the flawed character of someone? How cultish his following is? His erratic behavior, the damage that he's doing?

Some people will cry "politics" just to take the voice away from those who dare to question their beloved celebrities.

Elon is literally a political figure. How is one supposed to discuss his actions without invoking his politics?

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

That ship has sailed a long time ago, with the approval of the moderation itself.

They trample science, the Paradox of tolerance in action.

Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost.

So, it utterly fails? A good part of the community still seems to be stuck in 2017 where Elon could do no wrong.

Turns out a lot of not just wrong, but malice could be done in 9 years. And worse yet, incompetent malice. I don't know why that has to be a political statement these days, but thems the brakes here.

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