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layer8yesterday at 8:06 PM5 repliesview on HN

That’s just incorrect. “Open source” can mean the licensing as well as the development model [0]. It certainly has been associated with the development model since The Cathedral and the Bazaar [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_developme...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar


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Aurornisyesterday at 8:13 PM

> “Open source” can mean

Keyword being "can"

The Wikipedia page you linked to refers to "Open-source software development (OSSD)" which implies that it's a different concept than "open source" by itself

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nickffyesterday at 8:15 PM

Isn't Carmack just employing the 'Cathedral' type of 'Open Source'?

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dismalafyesterday at 11:35 PM

The "development model" of open source is that one person code dumps, another takes, changes it then dumps it, another picks up the copy with the changes, changes it again, and so on. Sometimes it finds it's way back.

A bazaar is a chaotic market with a million vendors, not anything remotely cooperative. The Cathedral and the Bazaar is meant to convey the idea that OSS code develops without central organization, through endless forking and cloning.

The bazaar model definitely isn't the cooperation and vibes model that the HN crowd thinks it is...

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uoaeiyesterday at 10:51 PM

"Open source" means the source code is open to the public for reading and copying. Licenses have complicated the idealistic definition to restrict copying, but that is only within the context of taking credit (ie implicit relicensure). The only winning move is not to play the game at all.