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daveguyyesterday at 9:14 PM5 repliesview on HN

Grok is a bot that:

1) sometimes goes mechahitler

2) was trained to be biased against empathy and understanding (because woke).

3) is customized to spout Elon's opinions as fact.

Claiming it is "objective and rational" seems like a misjudgement to me. If it really is more objective and rational than the average xitter poster, that says more about that platform than it does about Grok.


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ozozozdtoday at 3:27 AM

You’re right. But it appears they may have failed with 2) and 3) because I frequently see Grok spit out content that doesn’t agree with the creators’ narrative.

Sol-yesterday at 9:20 PM

I guess I was mostly arguing that the integration of something like Grok into Twitter was definitely a net positive for online discussion, as anyone has a fact checker and explainer at hand now to diffuse irrational online arguments.

Also I think you overrate Musk's success in fiddling with the model. As I have written, I also don't like his attempts to tune it to his tastes, but if you see the outputs that people get from Grok, it seems mostly fine except in the specific scenarios that Musk seems to have focused their misalignment on.

Of course something like Claude being integrated into Twitter would likely be better.

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tootieyesterday at 9:48 PM

It was also producing CSAM on demand for a few months.

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Sohcahtoa82yesterday at 11:06 PM

> 1) sometimes goes mechahitler

That "MechaHitler" episode lasted less than a day.

> 2) was trained to be biased against empathy and understanding (because woke).

No, it was trained and instructed to be truthful, even if the truth is deemed politically incorrect.

> 3) is customized to spout Elon's opinions as fact.

Certainly a nugget of truth there.

> Claiming it is "objective and rational" seems like a misjudgement to me.

I do believe it's generally objective, simply due to the fact that despite how much Elon tries to push it to the right, it still dunks on right-wingers all the time when they summon Grok to back up a bullshit story, but Grok debunks it instead.