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vessenesyesterday at 9:34 PM8 repliesview on HN

There's some texture here. Elon's enriched pretty much everybody who's ever worked for and invested with him. He makes money for people throughout his orgs. Many ex-employees have said to me: "incredible opportunity, made great money, worked insanely hard, once is plenty".


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NeutralCraneyesterday at 9:46 PM

My ex-Twitter employee coworkers beg to differ. They made plenty of money before Elon came around. Once he was in the company, one of them actually hired a personal attorney to confirm that he wasn’t going to be burned by the things Musk was asking him to do, before he finally decided it wasn’t worth it to work there anymore and left.

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KaiserProyesterday at 10:20 PM

I don't really think thats true.

The deal with tesla is that there is a relatively small employer pool, so you can be fairly bad employer but still get good outcomes. The same with spaceX. Sure early tesla had some stories about it being fun, but there was/is a darkside.

The issue with xAI is that researchers have a whole bunch of other employers to choose from. Even at meta, where it used to be fairly nice for researchers, the pressure of "delivering" every 6 months lead to bad outcomes. Having someone single you out for what ever reason the boss had a bad day, is not how good research gets done.

We have seen (A few of my friends were at twitter when it was taken over) that Musk has a somewhat unusual approach to managing staff (ie camping at work). Some researcher love that, assuming that they have peace to research, and are listened to. But a lot don't.

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rcontiyesterday at 10:26 PM

What about all the ones who are suing him for shortchanging them?

Freedom2yesterday at 9:47 PM

Many ex-employees have said to me that working for Elon did not enrich them at all, either financially or professionally.

raw_anon_1111yesterday at 9:39 PM

Ask the people at Twitter..

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hermanzegermanyesterday at 10:31 PM

He's a notorious cheapskate and Tesla is known for firing people shortly before their stock options vest

jamespoyesterday at 9:38 PM

There's probably a lot of survivor bias going on there

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Zigurdyesterday at 10:00 PM

> Elon's enriched pretty much everybody who's ever worked for and invested with him.

I'd wager you were saying the same thing about bitcoin until last year.

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