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frioyesterday at 11:52 PM0 repliesview on HN

> All of our expectations for control over our phones are completely out of whack compared to other computers.

I would, sadly, challenge this. If anything, our desktops and laptops are the exception now. Phones, TVs, game consoles, set top boxes, cars, Amazon echos, ebook readers, tablets, security cameras, autonomous devices like vacuum cleaners — when I think of the myriad devices we interact with that have a computer in them, they are all as stringently locked down as possible.