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ekr____yesterday at 7:46 PM1 replyview on HN

> In fact, it's failed more comprehensively than any IETF technology ever attempted

Now here is where I disagree. Just off the top of my head, how about HIP, IP multicast and PEM?


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tptacekyesterday at 7:49 PM

PEM actually gets used? People depend on it? It hasn't been a market success, but if the root keys for DNSSEC ended up on Pastebin this evening, almost nobody would need to be paged, and you can't say that about PEM.

Multicast gets used (I think unwisely) in campus/datacenter scenarios. Interdomain multicast was a total failure, but interdomain multicast is more recent than DNSSEC.

HIP is mid-aughts, isn't it?

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