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woodpanelyesterday at 9:10 PM5 repliesview on HN

Not a Jew, use to travel to Israel and am usually the sole person left still defending Israel. My gut reaction to 10-7 was to nuke Gaza for good. A lot has happened since then and now, even I consider it irresponsible to give Israel the benefit of the doubt anymore, as this enables such atrocities which I am sure are just the tip of the iceberg.

It’s not that Palestinians haven’t been caught lying repeatedly. It’s that the overall setup is just obviously allowing for such things to happen.

I wonder if 80 years of quasi-state-of-war let some circles in the Israeli power structure realize, that more conflict means more power for them.

Anyways, if Israel looses support from people like me, the overall image is probably in the absolute gutter.


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Agingcoderyesterday at 10:10 PM

If you don’t mind developing, what made you switch stance ? many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence , and based on your prior level of support, I’m quite curious about the actual process .

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burnt-resistoryesterday at 11:56 PM

> nuke Gaza for good

Some great empathy for innocent civilians you got there, monster.

dgxyzyesterday at 11:03 PM

Nuking Gaza is an abhorrent position but I don't think there will be any reform out there until there is a decisive win and if I have to pick a side it's not the Palestinians. If the Palestinians win it'll embolden other states or factions to have another go at the six-day war again and possibly prop up break-away action against other factions' host countries. There needs to be a complete and utter defeat that results in an enlightenment process. The strategy and military approach Hamas uses for example cannot be seen to win.

You have to look at the bigger picture. If they lose it's going to be a problem for all of us. Thus I have to support them.

And no I'm not a Trump supporter or Jewish or Israeli. The current operation in Iran is a fuck up. The whole thing that lead to 10-7 was a fuck up. It should have been dealt with years ago, preferably through diplomacy and threat of a strong hand rather than actually having to bomb the place.

There's no righteous side at all in this conflict.

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Ar-Curuniryesterday at 10:51 PM

> My gut reaction to 10-7 was to nuke Gaza for good

What the actual fuck. Sorry, but you’re a fucking maniac.

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oulipo2yesterday at 9:37 PM

> more conflict means more power for them

That's literally the strategy of the Likud, who undermined the more moderate Fattah to allow the extremist Hamas to reign on the Gaza strip, hoping that one day the 7th of october would happen, and would let them unleash a genocide...

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-...