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lithocarpustoday at 5:06 AM9 repliesview on HN

Beyond Burger ingredients:

Yellow Pea Protein, Avocado Oil, Natural Flavors, Brown Rice Protein, Red Lentil Protein, 2% or less of Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Pea Starch, Potassium Lactate (to preserve freshness), Faba Bean Protein, Apple Extract, Pomegranate Concentrate, Potassium Salt, Spice, Vinegar, Vegetable Juice Color (with Beet).

Except for Vinegar, every one of these is an industrially processed/extracted/refined ingredient that humans never ate until within the last ~50 years.

We have no way to even know if many of these are safe let alone healthy.

I don't know of any evidence that these things are a decent substitute for meat and salt which humans have been eating for our entire history. And for those who actually believe animal fat and salt are unhealthy one could make burgers with lean meat and less or no salt.


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chabskatoday at 8:03 AM

> humans never ate until within the last ~50 years

Humans have been eating some of these for thousands of years. I know "extract" is a scary big scientific word, but most of the time it's just immersing the grain in hot water, strain it to remove the pulp, then boiling the liquid to concentrate it. You can separate the starch and protein from any bean or grain in your kitchen with some basic kitchen equipment and hot water.

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whakimtoday at 5:51 AM

There is no reason to believe that the foods humans have historically eaten are safer/healthier than "industrially processed/extracted/refined" food simply because we have historically eaten them. Evolution does not select for avoiding the health problems facing modern-day humans such as cancer or heart disease.

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unfitted2545today at 7:05 AM

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croestoday at 6:27 AM

> I don't know of any evidence that these things are a decent substitute for meat and salt which humans have been eating for our entire history.

I‘m pretty sure humans eat potato, rice, peas etc. since a pretty long time.

I‘m also pretty sure that the meat our ancestors ate is a lit different from the meat we have now coming from animals optimized for meat production and fed with whatever produces the most meat and costs the least (mad cow disease anyone?).Not to mention the amount of meat we eat today compared to back then.

The problem with processed food isn’t that it is processed but that it makes it easy to consume too much

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KPGv2today at 8:15 AM

> every one of these is an industrially processed/extracted/refined ingredient that humans never ate until within the last ~50 years

what absurd scaremongering! Do you know how yellow pea protein, for example, is "refined"?

You take dried peas and grind them into powder. Pop in a centrifuge to separate protein from starch. Not exactly pumped full of "toxins"!

> Avocado Oil

You literally press avocado flesh. It's been done for centuries. It's not some crazy refinement process.

> brown rice protein

This is just ground up rice mixed with amylase or protease to isolate the proteins. There's nothing scary here. We've been eating it for millennia.

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noufalibrahimtoday at 6:58 AM

Reminds me of a joke I read online. "Plant Based Meat" is not Plant. It's not Based and it's not Meat.

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eeixlktoday at 10:47 AM

Huh.

s5300today at 6:58 AM

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viccistoday at 5:30 AM

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