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redfloatplanetoday at 10:32 AM5 repliesview on HN

There are gonna be some really interesting legal decisions to read in the coming years, that’s for sure…

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The rest of this comment is irrelevant, but leaving for posterity, I had the wrong Viktor - it's getviktor.com not viktor.ai:

Edit: this one particularly interesting to me as both parties are in the EU. VIKTOR.ai is a Dutch company and the author of this post is Polish.

The ToS for Viktor.ai include the following fun passages:

> 18.1. The Agreement and these Terms & Conditions are governed by Dutch law and the Agreement and these Terms & Conditions will be interpreted in accordance with Dutch law.

18.2. All disputes arising from or arising in connection with the Agreement and/or the Terms & Conditions will be submitted exclusively to the competent court in Rotterdam, The Netherlands.

7.3. The Customer is not permitted to change, remove or make unrecognizable any mark showing VIKTOR's Intellectual Property Rights to the Software. The Customer is not permitted to use or register any trademark or design or any domain name of VIKTOR or a similar name or sign in any country.

8.5. The Customer may not cause or allow any reproduction, imitation, duplication, copying, sale, resale, leasing or trading of the Services and/or the Software, or any part thereof.


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zvqcMMV6Zcrtoday at 10:50 AM

Terms of service might matter more for terminating that user account. Whole ordeal is just plain copyright violation. The author had no licence to that internal code, and whitewashing it with LLM will achieve nothing. That case is much clearer than that recent GPL->BSD attempt story.

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codetigertoday at 10:39 AM

There are also new jobs emerging to safeguard a companies assets that were created by AI. New white hat hacking opportunities.

Anyways, however you put this, I see this as a property theft and taking pride at open sourcing does not justify it.

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MartiCarmonatoday at 10:54 AM

Someone tell every startup in YC they are criminals

zggftoday at 10:41 AM

I could do the same thing but not publish it, still getting the value of their product without legal concerns. Now, what happens when it becomes even easier thanks to AI improving, and takes few hours instead of few days?

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dsjoergtoday at 11:35 AM

it's not viktor.ai it's getviktor.com

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