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warpspintoday at 10:52 AM2 repliesview on HN

The problem with the European independence story is, that it seems Mistral runs its own stuff also on US cloud act affected infrastructure. This makes them a very weird value proposition: If I accept a level of "independence" whereby I run on AWS or Azure, I could as well pay for Anthropic or GPT to have SOTA performance.

If I do not accept that level of independence but want more, I need to buy what's on OVH, Scaleway, Ionos etc. or host my own, but that usually means even smaller, worse models or a lot of investment.

Nevertheless, the "band" that Mistral occupies for economic success is very narrow. Basically just people who need independence "on paper" but not really. Because if I'm searching for actual independence, there's no way I could give them money at the moment for one of their products and it making sense, cause none of their plans are an actual independence-improvement over, let's say, Amazon Bedrock.

I really really want to support them, but it must make economic sense for my company, too, and it doesn't.


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kimsanttoday at 11:23 AM

I don’t care about the servers, they are a comodity already.

The key is to avoid chantage, remember Oracle with DBs, people learned not to build on top of unreplaceable stuff

tin7intoday at 1:08 PM

They are building their own infra - south of Paris and another one was announced in Sweden recently.

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