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diacriticalyesterday at 8:16 PM4 repliesview on HN

From ~04:10 till 05:00 they talk about sodium-vapor lights and how Disney has the exclusive rights to use it. From what I read the knowledge on how to make them is a trade secret, so it's not patented. Seems weird that it would be hard to recreate something from the 1950's.

I also wonder how many hours were wasted by people who had to use inferior technology because Disney kept it secret. Cutting out animals and objects from the background 1 frame at a time seems so mindnumbingly boring.


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meatmanekyesterday at 9:13 PM

The lights are relatively easy to get. iirc (it's been a bit since I watched their full video on the subject[1]) the hard part to find was the splitter that sends the sodium-vapor light to one camera and everything else to another camera.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQuIVsNzqDk

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somattoday at 12:12 AM

It is a well known process, Not a lot of general use so costs are not low, but not nearly as high as the original disney prism, I would guess around a 1000 USD for one. As far as I can tell any well equipped optics laboratory could make a beam splitter with whatever frequency gate they want.

https://accucoatinc.com/technical-notes/beamsplitter-coating...

I have no idea about that specific company I just picked it after a search for "beam splitter"

After I saw that video on the sodium vapor illumination process I was curious as to what if you could instead use near-IR light as the mask illumination. In theory you would have a perfect mask(as in the disney process) and no color interference. I found that frequency gated beam splitters are a fairly common scientific instrument.

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jasonwatkinspdxyesterday at 8:46 PM

Yeah, that's just nonsense. We used sodium vapor monochromatic bulbs in my high school physics class to duplicate the double slit experiment.

I suspect the real reason is that digital green screen in the hands of experienced people is "good enough" vs the complication of needing a double camera and beam splitting prism rig and such.

like_any_otheryesterday at 11:16 PM

Even if it had been patented, patents from the 1950s would have long expired. In fact, patents from 2005 would have expired - the US patent term is only 20 years.

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