Both are dramatically over-engineered. & That's okay. I find them to be products of an industry reconciling how to really work with AI as well as optimize workflows around it. Similar to Gastown et al.
Otherwise, if you can own your own thinking, orchestrating, and steering of agents, you're in a more mature place.
I think that's fair, if they were created today I'm sure the creators would make different decisions, a penalty of getting there first.
I also see it as fleeting as right when you have it figured out, a new model will work differently and may/may not need all their engineering layers.