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embedding-shapetoday at 12:50 PM17 repliesview on HN

Also probably a rare case where there are a few Streisand effect's all packed together, where the cops at each step made it worse for themselves.

If they never did the raid in the first place, no music video, no "embarrassment". They could have cut their losses, and not made a big deal about it and probably way less people (including myself) would have ever heard about it.

Instead they decided to sue, which made even bigger news. Here they could again have chosen "You know what, maybe this is counter-productive, lets settle/cancel it", and again probably people would have cared way less about it.

Instead, they go to court, make a bunch of exaggerated and outrageous claims, one officer apparently cried as well, all in a public court room that is being recorded, again making it a bigger thing.

Finally, Afroman wins the case, leading to this now seemingly making international news, and the videos continue racking up views.

I know cops aren't known for being smart, but I have to wonder who made them act like this, don't cops have lawyers who can inform them about what is a smart move vs not? Seems they almost purposefully and intentionally tried to help Afroman, since they basically made the "wrong move" at every chance they got.


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delectitoday at 1:07 PM

I suspect it was less about the legal merits and more about punishing (whether or not they won) through the lawsuit itself.

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TallGuyShorttoday at 2:51 PM

If the police possessed the self-control and critical thinking to not drag this whole thing into a lawsuit, I think the raid would likely have never happened in the first place.

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nitwit005today at 8:48 PM

You forgot that they stole his money. When he went to get the cash, it was $400 short. They blamed a counting error, but it was supposedly in a sealed evidence bag, so how did it escape?

That generated a whole slew of extra stories, because it elevated the whole thing to a deliberate crime.

lukantoday at 1:22 PM

They would have individually gotten lots of money in compensation if they would have won. So maybe the motives on their side are a bit more materialistic.

atmavatartoday at 4:21 PM

> I know cops aren't known for being smart

Not only aren't they known for being smart, but they're known for explicitly filtering out smart people.

The 2nd court of appeals ruled in favor of a city (New London, Connecticut) which rejects police applicants for having too high a score on intelligence tests.

See: https://abcnews.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story...

See: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/too-smart-to-be-a-cop/

ncr100today at 3:11 PM

In my view it's because the city or locality which those cops protect has been remiss, the community has been remiss in making sure that their police actually police in the way that the community wants them to police.

So obviously the community is getting exactly what it deserves by having its police force be legally liable for incompetent malfeasance behavior. Ultimately it will cost the community, Afroman himself, in tax used to fund the police, And then route that money back to afroman and his attorney for his legal fees.

An embarrassment. Humiliation of the community. Reinforcement and debasement of the community. Suppressed business attractiveness of the community for its plain lack of oversight.

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athrowaway3ztoday at 2:01 PM

US Police are trained such that their first impression in any situation is to see how people are reacting to their authority, and if it's not acquiesced to go on high alert.

It's not that they couldn't understand; It's that it's a faux pas to question this way of thinking so nobody does.

Play that out long enough and you get clown shows like these.

lenerdenatortoday at 12:55 PM

> don't cops have lawyers who can inform them about what is a smart move vs not?

Generally, municipalities have at least some sort of attorney on retainer for this sort of thing.

Generally. I don't know if that's the case where he lives.

Either way, the police have to be smart enough to listen to that attorney, and have to be given a consequence for not doing so. If you can brush off everything as qualified immunity and say you were acting under color of law while a part of a union that would raise absolute hell for any sort of corrective action taken against you, you might not be introduced to said consequence.

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thinkingtoilettoday at 12:57 PM

>I know cops aren't known for being smart

Even worse. Police departments can actively reject you for being smart.

https://abcnews.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story...

(granted this is a one off case, but it is astonishing and speaks to the larger issue)

busymom0today at 6:40 PM

I had never even heard of Afroman until 3 days ago when I saw some lawyers livestream the trial on YouTube. The whole thing seemed so bizarre and I was surprised why the case wasn't even summary dismissed by the judge in the first place.

Now Afroman has even more material to make YouTube videos of and humiliate these cops for eternity.

renewiltordtoday at 2:31 PM

Tin foil hat version is that they’re looking for a payday where they can and if this didn’t work they can always check whether the police department failed them as an employer.

ngc248today at 2:14 PM

Mega-streisand effect ... they stacked together so many of em

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BLKNSLVRtoday at 1:57 PM

I hope he makes another song with additional material from the court case.

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shevy-javatoday at 1:42 PM

> Also probably a rare case where there are a few Streisand effect's all packed together, where the cops at each step made it worse for themselves.

It is not even that rare; some cases covered by Audit the Audit or Lackluster (same guy), or the civil lawyer. The amount of incompetence among many cops is surprising. They really literally don't even know the law or constitution. Just about anyone is hired. Quality standards are mega-low.

plagiaristtoday at 1:24 PM

If I were in a gang such that I routinely committed theft and violence without consequence from the government, I'd probably have internalized that I am superior to the plebs. So I would expect what is obviously SLAPP to actually come out in my favor.

mmoosstoday at 1:34 PM

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echelon_musktoday at 1:08 PM

> way less people (including myself) would have never heard about it

I think the never here is a typo.

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