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dparkyesterday at 2:28 PM2 repliesview on HN

> Police do regularly get shot at when raiding.

I wonder what the ratio of police deaths during no knock raids vs peacefully served search warrants.

I certainly believe that bursting through someone’s door with guns drawn is a high risk activity. It seems like maybe no one needed to do that in this case, though.


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advisedwangyesterday at 3:26 PM

> police deaths during no knock raids vs peacefully served search warrants

Would have to be a randomized trial because right now obviously police only peacefully serve warrants in situations that are already very unlikely to be violent.

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mothballedyesterday at 2:48 PM

I think the traffic stop paranoia stems from a couple high profile incidents like

(1) Brannan in Georgia

(2) Darian Jarrott executed after the feds/HSI setup a drug sting but use NMSP trooper as a sacrificial lamb and then mosie their way on over after for the aftermath.

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Police_Shootout_-_De...

[2] https://youtu.be/NqxTf-Vz12o?t=475

I've seen police in online forums reference these a lot when any talks come up of toning down their immediate instinct to draw their guns.

Basically in the US the feds will use local/state police as a sacrifice and not tell them that they're part of a sting of armed violent criminals so they're basically getting set up by HSI etc on purpose for surprises.

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