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politelemonlast Thursday at 7:54 PM7 repliesview on HN

I'm not in agreement with most of you, hn. They've found a decent compromise that works for power users and the general population. Your status as a power user does not invalidate the need to help the more vulnerable.

Having to wait a day for a one off isn't a big deal, if they kept it looser then you'd be shouting about the amount of scams that propagate on the platform.


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t_mahmoodlast Thursday at 8:40 PM

Same with bootloader unlocking isn't it?

Ah, its not much, just an email away ...

oh, not much it's email and a phone call away ...

Just wait 7 days ... no, it's just a month, and only one device par account? What's wrong with it? You are overreacting

Wait! Why you want to unlock your boot loader, only 0.000001% does it. You are abnormal, not the mass user

Fool me once it's on you Fool me twice ... it's on me.

We are already over twice, but none the wiser.

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allreducelast Thursday at 8:57 PM

This helping the vulnerable framing is naive at best. This is about an American ad company consolidating their power over what people can do with devices they bought and are reliant on daily.

Helping the vulnerable should not involve that. If your only idea on how to help the vulnerable involves that, think of better ideas.

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keanebean86last Thursday at 8:07 PM

My personal hard line is having to ask Google for permission to sideload. Even if it's free and no personal info is exchanged. This new process is annoying but I can see it helping prevent scams.

varispeedlast Thursday at 8:04 PM

But this is very rich from them given they serve scam ads with impunity.

I'd say this has nothing to do with preventing scams, but to make independent software more difficult to distribute.

kace91last Thursday at 8:57 PM

>Having to wait a day for a one off isn't a big deal

It's my phone. It's my software. Period.

The general population is deterred by burying a setting deep. Waiting is a dark pattern and we're not idiots.

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megousyesterday at 4:47 PM

Sure, I believe that the likes of Meta, Google, and god damn Microsoft who enabled mass brutal persecution of millions of people for money (engaged in recording and analysis of phone calls of Palestinians), care about vulnerable individuals, and not just about stuffing their pockets with more and more money by the means of increased control over "their" platforms.

They sure spend billions to "help the vulnerable". Right. Like Meta here: https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings