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justindotdevtoday at 10:15 AM5 repliesview on HN

im pretty sure this is in violation of moonshot's ToS. this is going to be fun to watch unfold


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kgeisttoday at 11:28 AM

At the same time, Moonshot violated Anthropic's ToS by training on their models' outputs :) [0]. And Anthropic violated copyright law by training on copyrighted material. It's violations all the way down.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47126614

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NitpickLawyertoday at 10:30 AM

There is no ToS at play here. There's only the license[1], which is MIT modified like so:

> Our only modification part is that, if the Software (or any derivative works thereof) is used for any of your commercial products or services that have more than 100 million monthly active users, or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in monthly revenue, you shall prominently display "Kimi K2.5" on the user interface of such product or service.

[1] - https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.5/blob/main/LICENS...

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gillesjacobstoday at 10:22 AM

They probably licensed it. Still a bit deceptive not to mention it on the model card/blog post, but companies whitelabel all the time without mentioning.

It goes against the ML community ethos to obscure it, but is common branding practice.

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charcircuittoday at 10:24 AM

Kimi K2.5 was released under a modified MIT license (100M+ MAU or $20M+ MRR has to prominently display Kimi K2.5). It will be fine.

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