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ninjagooyesterday at 12:58 PM2 repliesview on HN

> Open phones are all fine and well, but good luck convincing banking and government applications to work on those (especially in countries where bank login is used to access government services).

First phones, then lobbying. As citizens of an open society, government exists to serve us, not the other way around. With enough users, they will have to respond. As I said, there are a number of areas that need attention and a coordinated effort across the breadth of society to restore, maintain and improve the foundations of an open society.


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Psypeyesterday at 1:03 PM

it also makes it urgent to have a platform with leverage under 3-5 years, with a whole lot of countries pushing for digital ID globally.

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fooquxyesterday at 4:01 PM

> As citizens of an open society, government exists to serve us, not the other way around.

I really wish this was true. It should be true. It used to be true. But I don't think it is now.

> With enough users, they will have to respond.

Well, yeah. But even if we had millions of people lined up (which we don't) it still wouldn't be enough to force a positive response.

Frankly there's too much money wrapped up in this now. Because of that, open computing will always be under attack. I hate coming off as so defeatist, but what we need is a culture change, and a new device which is (from the perspective of the 99%) worse and more expensive than Android isn't going to get us that.