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sys32768today at 2:29 PM5 repliesview on HN

To be fair, you probably have some views some people think are pretty awful.


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kelnostoday at 9:07 PM

This is a tough thing. I do believe in moral relativism to a large extent, but I also think there are some things that are really just objectively morally and ethically "right" or "wrong".

Hating on LGBT folks and trying to restrict their rights is one of those things that is wrong no matter how you dice it. People who believe otherwise are wrong, full stop.

So it's not really so much about people thinking someone else's views are awful. It's about whether or not those views truly are awful. And I feel very safe in saying that if someone thinks my support of LGBT folks is pretty awful, they're in the wrong, not me. And I'm in the right to think their hateful views are awful.

(Yes, I realize how arrogant that sounds, but I have to stand by it.)

I think this is something that transcends politics or culture wars or anything like that. Having these sorts of hateful views are actively harmful to humanity's and society's future. That doesn't mean I think we should censor people (rampant censorship is also actively harmful to our future), but it does mean we need to somehow fix people and shift the culture toward one that lets people live how they want in cases like this where doing so doesn't actually hurt anyone else. I have no idea how to accomplish this, though.

bovermyertoday at 2:52 PM

Oh, for sure. MAGA types think some of my views are absolutely abhorrent. I'm pretty sure there are a few cultures that would kill me for my views.

Just because they hate me, though, doesn't mean I can't disagree with their position.

praptaktoday at 2:41 PM

I don't see how this matters. Whoever thinks I'm horrible is 100% allowed to say this after I'm dead.

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bbkanetoday at 2:36 PM

Me 5 years ago did. I agree with all my views today. Who knows about me 5 years from now

LightBug1today at 4:12 PM

There's a solid difference between 'awful' and just plain 'dumb'.