Ironically, the very concept of a “real man” is founded on the idea that a man should be defined by stereotypes rather than by sex, which puts manosphere enthusiasts and gender enthusiasts in closer epistemological proximity than either would care to admit.
I saw this coming, that's why I made this point, which you ignored:
> Could you give a couple of examples of what you would consider > "good role models for well-adapted men" ?
I'm actually curious.