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mrguyoramayesterday at 9:26 PM0 repliesview on HN

>Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and the US has been carrying 90% of NATO since forever.

This has always been the stupidest take.

Do you know how Europe always planned to pay their part of NATO?

Blood.

Go look at war plans if things ever got hot with the soviets. Germany would be gone. The plan was always hundreds of thousands of dead Europeans while the US geared up to come save the day. America's plan for NATO was the same as it's contribution to the first two world wars: Sell all the guns, ammo, fuel, and food required to keep Europe alive while their territory was wiped clean by war.

Compare US casualties in either World War with European casualties. That was always the plan.

Europe's contribution was the graveyards they would have to plow after the war.

Complaining about some budgeting is insane. That was always just a bonus kickback.

So, exactly how things go with Ukraine. They die, we profit, maybe their country survives after, US remains basically untouched, though that part is no longer reality.