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rdevillatoday at 12:09 AM1 replyview on HN

Whatever you think the scale of surveillance is, I assure you it is 100x worse.

North America is rooted. There is no recovery plan.


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timschmidttoday at 12:12 AM

My understanding is that Abraham Lincoln literally had all the nation's telegraph lines routed through DC during the civil war, and AT&T has been an honorary branch of the US government ever since.

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