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The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shirts than records'

125 pointsby c420last Sunday at 1:58 AM64 commentsview on HN

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riffrafftoday at 6:48 AM

Well, Brian Eno said of Velvet Underground's first album that it didn't sell many copies but everyone who bought it started a band.

PunchyHamstertoday at 8:57 AM

I dunno, Seems like author of article is projecting, I feel like most people would be happy if they made that much of an cultural impact

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mrandishtoday at 5:32 AM

I read that Aerosmith made more money from Guitar Hero game royalties than from their albums. And it's been true for a long time that most acts make more from touring and merch than song sales.

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deegtoday at 4:26 AM

If the Ramones put their name on all sorts of merchandise does that make them sellouts?

I joke, of course, and I'm a big Ramones fan. I've had numerous iterations of that shirt over the years. I often use them as an example when discussing "what is good art?" They are one of the most influential bands of all time and yet they were terrible musicians.

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schnitzelstoattoday at 9:29 AM

I was wondering the same thing about Iron Maiden the other day - they seem more of a merch company than a heavy metal band these days.

You can get Iron Maiden beer, Iron Maiden wine, Iron Maiden sunglasses etc. let alone the common merch like T-shirts.

Given many more people can buy merch than can buy a concert ticket (which has inherently limited numbers) I wonder how the two revenue sources compare.

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circlefavshapetoday at 9:38 AM

I get a lot of content about "how to promote your band"* and it's almost ALL about finding "superfans" you can sell merch to - so the actual art is reduced to ads for t-shirts

* I've been in the same (unsuccessful) band since 1987 - obvs I have a day job too

kleibatoday at 8:27 AM

Isn't the whole point of touring to sell merchandise?

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musicaletoday at 4:59 AM

They're played every day on the radio, on streaming services, etc. Billions of listens vs. thousands (?) of shirts.

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hdhdhebbbwhwuuwtoday at 5:41 AM

Shawn Stussy printed shirts to promote his surfboards and ended up being the originator of “streetwear”

FerretFredlast Sunday at 11:08 AM

Fascinating! Always love these backstories. The Ramones were brilliant - I don't have a favourite album but my most-watched DVD is The Ramones Story

jimt1234today at 4:08 AM

Seems like The Ramones were way ahead of their time, whether they knew it or not. Before the digital age, most bands made the bulk of their their money from record sales. Concert tours were just promotional events for the latest album. That model has since been flipped to what The Ramones were doing 50 years ago - "music sales" earns little compared to concerts and merchandising. Now that's punk rock! LOL

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locallosttoday at 8:42 AM

I don't mean to be crude, but how can it haunt them, when they're all dead?

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joey1978today at 4:41 AM

How does it haunt them when they are dead?

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mediumsmartlast Sunday at 6:21 AM

Made my day. Thank you

TMWNNtoday at 4:04 AM

Isn't it normal and typical for musical acts to make more money from concert tours and merchandise sales than the music itself?

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suoertoday at 8:15 AM

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keeganpoppentoday at 5:57 AM

The Ramones sucked. can we just all finally be real about this?

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