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leptonsyesterday at 8:02 PM1 replyview on HN

>Google is also involved in W3C and do I really need to bring up the topics API as Google attempting to use their position to push their agenda as well?

How is Web Bluetooth an evil agenda of Google??

It's making web browsers more capable. It's not some evil conspiracy to enrich Google. If Apple wants to let the W3C move forward in making it a standard, then all browsers would benefit, and all users that would like to use a bluetooth enabled web-app would benefit.

The only one that benefits from not allowing it to become a standard is Apple, because they get to force developers to make a native app, where Apple can extract a % of sales through the app.

>Just because Google does something it doesn't mean the rest of the industry should follow. If we did that in IE days we would still have ActiveX

IE was the first to implement XMLHTTPRequest. It changed the web fundamentally, and was the basis for "web 2.0". Everyone was glad that they created it, standards or not when it was first implemented.

If we didn't have browser manufacturers pushing the limits, we'd be stuck with "web 1.0" and browsers that did nothing interesting outside of loading animated gifs of dancing babyies.


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nerdjonyesterday at 9:51 PM

> How is Web Bluetooth an evil agenda of Google??

Never said it was, notice how in the thing you quoted I said "Topics API"? That is extremely evil and was only introduced to benefit a single company, Google.

I never made a claim that every single thing on this list that safari does not support is a negative.

> IE was the first to implement XMLHTTPRequest. It changed the web fundamentally, and was the basis for "web 2.0".

Fantastic, that is an example of things working as they are supposed to work.

However IE also introduced things that were not made standard just as equally we celebrated that those things failed.

> If we didn't have browser manufacturers pushing the limits, we'd be stuck with "web 1.0" and browsers that did nothing interesting outside of loading animated gifs of dancing babyies.

Obviously that is true or the companies would not be involved in W3C. But that does not mean that every idea they introduce is necessary in a browser and deserves to be a standard feature. Google alone cannot and should dictate a standard, even though apparently we are fine with them attempting to do just that.

If everyone is in agreement instead of it benefiting a single company.

> The only one that benefits from not allowing it to become a standard is Apple

I would like to point out, once again. That this feature is also not available on Firefox for Android or Desktop. Your argument does not support why Mozilla has not implemented this feature. Which again, makes the "Apple bad" spin on this not as cut and dry.

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