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hungryhobbityesterday at 8:40 PM7 repliesview on HN

Wait, so a company shared their work with the public for however long, then decided to leave what was shared up ... but stop sharing ... and you're upset?!?

They did everything properly by the rules of OSS, decided it wasn't in their best interest to keep doing OSS, and left all their code available, as required by OSS. They were a textbook good participant.

Meanwhile, 99% of companies never open source anything: why aren't you complaining about how "unethical" they are?


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papyrus9244yesterday at 10:21 PM

> and left all their code available, as required by OSS.

IANAL, and I don't have a horse in this race, but I don't think that's required by OSS, not by the spirit of "the law", and (at least) not by GPL, MIT, and other similar mainstream licenses.

The spirit of open source is: you buy (or just download for free) a binary, you get the 4 rights. Whatever happens when the developer/company stops distributing (whether at a cost or free as in beer) that binary is completely outside the scope of the license.

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skeledrewyesterday at 9:41 PM

> a company shared their work with the public for however long, then decided to leave what was shared up

More like a company took advantage of a community that expected their freely offered labor to not be commercialized at any point in time without making available said works in a fully free vector as well, as that's an implicit expectation behind "open source".

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inarosyesterday at 11:55 PM

They are going about to learn the same lesson Elastic learned with OpenSearch...

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bandramitoday at 3:30 AM

I can't think of any free or open license that requires you to leave your code available for any specific period of time if you are not simultaneously distributing binaries.

imiricyesterday at 8:52 PM

How can people still not understand that OSS can be abused?

It doesn't matter that the previous code is still available. Nobody can technically delete it from the internet, so that's hardly something they did "right".

The original maintainers are gone, and users will have to rely on someone else to pick up the work, or maintain it themselves. All of this creates friction, and fragments the community.

And are you not familiar with the concept of OSS rugpulls? It's when a company uses OSS as a marketing tool, and when they deem it's not profitable enough, they start cutting corners, prioritizing their commercial product, or, as in this case, shut down the OSS project altogether. None of this is being a "textbook good participant".

> Meanwhile, 99% of companies never open source anything: why aren't you complaining about how "unethical" they are?

Frankly, there are many companies with proprietary products that behave more ethically and have more respect for their users than this. The fact that a project is released as OSS doesn't make it inherently better. Seeing OSS as a "free gift" is a terrible way of looking at it.

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etchalonyesterday at 8:53 PM

Because this thread isn't about those other companies.