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conztoday at 5:28 AM2 repliesview on HN

Re: "I don't know why I am still perpetually shocked that the default assumption is that humans are somehow unique."

Perhaps this might better help you understand why this assumption still holds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reducti...


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throw310822today at 8:00 AM

"Controversial theory justifies assumption". Because humans never hallucinate.

staticassertiontoday at 6:24 AM

It doesn't. I actually completely reject that theory, and it's nice to see that Wikipedia notes that it is "controversial". There are extremely good reasons to reject this theory. For one thing, any quantum effects are going to be quite tiny/ trivial because the brain is too large, hot, wet, etc, to see larger effects, so you have to somehow make a leap to "tiny effects that last for no time at all" to "this matters fundamentally in some massive way".

It likely requires rejection of functionalism, or the acceptance that quantum states are required for certain functions. Both of those are heavy commitments with the latter implying that there are either functions that require structures that can't be instantiated without quantum effects or functions that can't be emulated without quantum effects, both of which seem extremely unlikely to me.

Probably for the far more important reason, it doesn't solve any problem. It's just "quantum woo, therefor libertarian free will" most of the time.

It's mostly garbage, maybe a tiny tiny bit of interesting stuff in there.

It also would do nothing to indicate that human intelligence is unique.