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Country that put backdoors in Cisco routers to spy on world bans foreign routers

90 pointsby beardywtoday at 5:32 PM35 commentsview on HN

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kevincloudsectoday at 7:25 PM

the ban covers all foreign-made consumer routers but practically every router is manufactured abroad, even the ones sold by American companies. the only domestic exception is Starlink, iirc

hunter2_today at 7:05 PM

If we set aside geopolitics and purely consider whether tightening the security of private networks is sensible whatsoever: are routers a substantially bigger threat than client devices such as the various IoT knickknacks (smart TVs, smart switches/outlets, smart appliances, etc.)? Controlling the NAT/firewall features is handy for opening ports and working around VLAN segmentation, but that isn't required for many scenarios; a compromised client device can often snoop on the rest of the network and exfiltrate what it discovers just fine even with an uncompromised router.

nizbittoday at 6:39 PM

Cisco been hiding this in plain sight since 2004: https://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/CSD4291.pdf

Love seeing pop up like it’s new or something.

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jdlygatoday at 6:03 PM

This is just geopolitics. You should've seen what the US and Europe did during the Cold War.

juliusceasartoday at 7:06 PM

Israel did the same in Netherlands with the biggest telecom KPN.

orwintoday at 5:58 PM

My company new installation now use Siemens routers. It seems a few will keep Cisco though, so we have yet another provider. More work for me I guess.

soumyaskarthatoday at 6:50 PM

The audacity of banning others for doing exactly what you got caught doing. At least be subtle about

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mikkupikkutoday at 6:05 PM

> country which once exploited an attack vector is now trying to protect itself on that vector

I have no doubt that American efforts at security on this front are inadaquate, incompetent, etc. But hypocritical? Nah.

drivingmenutstoday at 6:25 PM

If I was more paranoid, I'd start thinking the ban is to make it easier to spy on us by limiting our choices to a few domestic vendors who can be coerced by regulatory capture and "for the kids" political rhetoric.

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themafiatoday at 5:42 PM

A USA company bought an Indian OS to turn into it's SOHO router/firewall product. The results are exactly what you would have expected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4COrX9YHcU

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tosappletoday at 5:59 PM

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tptacektoday at 5:49 PM

Um, this is not an example of hypocrisy? If I punch you in the nose, I am not a hypocrite if I block your attempt to punch me back.

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MisterTeatoday at 6:24 PM

> Country that put backdoors into Cisco routers to spy on world bans foreign routers

Says the tech rag hailing from the 5-eyes nation known as the UK...