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mjuareztoday at 2:10 AM10 repliesview on HN

Not to be _that_ guy, but it was technically -48V DC.

Honestly, that was pretty surprising to me when I had to work with some telco equipment a couple of decades ago. To this day, I don't think I've encountered anything else that requires negative voltage relative to ground.


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fecal_hengetoday at 10:25 AM

I am STILL designing hardware for -48v telco standard. The first thing we do is convert -48 -> 48v. That's 4 square inches of PCB space we waste.

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swed420today at 12:45 PM

> I don't think I've encountered anything else that requires negative voltage relative to ground

Automotive collectors can probably still relate to cars from the 1920s-50s having a "positive ground."

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jacquesmtoday at 2:40 AM

Yes, and that tiny little difference can cost you a lot of expensive gear if you run it off the battery and plug in a serial port or something like that. You'll also learn first hand what arc welding looks like without welding glass.

em3rgent0rdrtoday at 4:33 AM

Some old guitar effects used -9V DC.[1] And the convention with guitar effects power adapter is the barrel is center negative (which is motivated with facilitating easy wiring of the socket's switch to connect to a 9V battery inside).

[1] https://www.analogisnotdead.com/article26/what-is-going-on-w...

HWR_14today at 5:42 AM

Can you explain why it's -48 VDC as opposed to 48 VDC with the + and - inputs mislabeled?

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SAI_Peregrinustoday at 3:48 AM

Lots of amplifier circuits need a bipolar supply: both positive and negative voltages with respect to ground.

aidenn0today at 4:15 AM

RTL and DTL both needed negative-voltage relative to ground, as do many analog circuits.

servo_sausagetoday at 2:32 AM

Is that something other than a labelling convention? Is ground actually connected to a earth stake?

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bluGilltoday at 2:31 AM

positive ground used to be in all cars. When they went from 6 volts to 12 the disadvantages became appearant fast and so everyone went negative ground then (mid 1950s). I am not clear why positive ground was bad (maybe corrosion?)

yostrovstoday at 2:23 AM

Check out older English cars.