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roflmaostctoday at 11:49 AM5 repliesview on HN

Partially agree. However, this problem has existed with scam e-mails since the 90s.

For me the solution is in signed e-mails and signed documents. If the person invites me to a online meeting with a signed e-mail, I trust that person that it's really them.

Same for footage of wars, etc. The journalist taking it basically signs the videos and verifies it's authenticity. It is AI generated, then we would loose trust in that person and wouldn't use their material anymore.


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TheOtherHobbestoday at 12:11 PM

How do you prove the signature isn't fake?

Ultimately ID requires either a government ID service, a third party corporate ID service, or some kind of open hybrid - which doesn't exist.

All of those have their issues.

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strogonofftoday at 2:31 PM

As with any problem, scale changes its nature.

With cash, you can only steal so much (or have transactions of up to certain size) until you run into geographical and physical constraints. With cryptocurrency, it’s possible to lose any amount.

With humans writing scam emails, you can only have so many of them until one blows the whistle. With LLMs, a single person can distribute an arbitrary amount.

At some point, quantity becomes a new quality, and drawing a parallel becomes disingenuous because the new quality has no precedent in human history.

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mk89today at 12:57 PM

There are people hosting agents online to talk to other agents etc. on their behalf. How difficult is it to just instruct such an agent to do the tasks you mentioned? You're assuming it's done by "bad actors" while it's most likely just going to be done by "everyone" that knows how to do it.

Forgeties79today at 11:56 AM

Spam emails in the 90’s don’t come remotely close to the operations people can set up by themselves with AI now. It doesn’t even compare.

hansonkdtoday at 1:50 PM

I mean emails were and still are a huge security risk. Sometimes I'm more scared of employees opening and engaging with emails than I am than anything else.