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raincoletoday at 2:51 PM12 repliesview on HN

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score.

UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.


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dghftoday at 3:05 PM

> Ofcom, the UK’s communications regulator, praised Apple for the decision, especially since it’s not required to implement age verification for the iOS or its App Store under the region’s Online Safety Act.

https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/apple-introduces-age-verif...

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bloppetoday at 3:06 PM

It's not about some American cultural attachment to credit cards. It's another classic Apple frustration move where they make the experience worse for their users in the hopes they'll blame someone else like the UK govt. They do the same thing with green bubbles.

ap99today at 3:16 PM

It's more out of convenience that credit card is used.

There isn't some American principle that human = credit score. Americans just don't want their government ID required to do basic things.

See discord age verification controversy.

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CGMthrowawaytoday at 3:05 PM

We need to start calling it identity verification. Because that's what it is, anything that requires you to hand over an ID or credit card.

"Age" verification was a wonderful trojan horse that has fooled a lot of people.

debo_today at 3:23 PM

You conveniently left this part out:

> First it attempted to check my Apple Wallet, it failed even though I have five cards in it and am able to use the App Store fine.

> Then it moved onto wanting me to manually add a card to verify myself. It failed with all my five cards. Four were debit cards, and one was a credit card from another country, cause you know I am an immigrant who has accounts still in my own original birth place.

bogdantoday at 3:04 PM

His complaints are that Apple only supports credit cards for age verification. Please read more carefully.

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estebanktoday at 3:05 PM

A law can be bad and its implementation can be worse.

eimrinetoday at 3:10 PM

They were expected to fight the evil, not to join.

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jmyetoday at 3:49 PM

The credit score line is just about the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. Some people desperately need to get off mainstream social media.

isodevtoday at 3:14 PM

Apple could’ve opted to use the same (open, portable, privacy respecting) mechanism the euID architecture offers for such cases but of course Apple doesn’t do privacy, portable or open.

embedding-shapetoday at 3:04 PM

Right, Apple is a US company, with typical US culture, and they always try to "follow the letter of the law but not the spirit" when it comes to privacy and also when it comes to the age checks. In this particular case, they seem to have implemented the check in the worst possible way too, even the account age is above the age limit, what's hard to figure out here?

Is it surprising that people blame the company and the culture that fostered it, instead of the country that is trying to "protect itself", regardless of how misdirected that "protect itself" is?

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