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cbeachyesterday at 11:53 PM3 repliesview on HN

We Europeans have a pathological habit of blaming Orange Man Bad for all our many problems (which are often the fault of the EU and our socialist, collectivist tendencies)


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bean469today at 11:21 AM

> We Europeans have a pathological habit of blaming Orange Man Bad for all our many problems

Might be a different social circle, but I have not met a single European in my entire life of living in Europe who would blame Donald Trump or the US in general for the problems that we are currently facing. It doesn't take a genius to summarize that trans-continental geopolitics is much more complex than that

latexrtoday at 1:14 AM

> We Europeans have a pathological habit of blaming Orange Man Bad for all our many problems

Speak for yourself. I don’t even think Trump is to blame for all the US’s problems (he’s a symptom of a much larger system), let alone the EU’s.

I also mentioned others outside the EU and US, as does the link I posted.

Furthermore, I don’t think I personally know anyone from the EU who blames “all our many problems” on the US.

komali2today at 4:17 AM

> socialist, collectivist tendencies

Lots of places are socialist or collectivist and have a different set of problems, so the argument that EU problems can be solely attributed to that don't make sense.

I'm also not sure "collectivist" is the correct label. We can't describe Japan (and the PRC, Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, a couple other SEasian nations) and the EU as both collectivist, considering Japan is the far more extreme version of it (I would say, only Japan is collectivist, not the EU). One or the other needs a different word.