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msisk6yesterday at 11:58 PM4 repliesview on HN

My RAM truck with the Cummins diesel engine has the engine computer mounted on the engine block. You'd think the heat and exposure to the elements would make that a bad idea, but I suppose Cummins knows what they're doing.


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phil21today at 1:21 AM

My car has it under the passenger seat.

Sounds alright until you realize after spilling a bunch of flower vases in the trunk (hatchback) that the computer has literally no case on it and immediately shorts out while driving. Or a passenger spills a drink in the rear seat cup holder.

There is now a recall notice to pull the back seat out to install a $5 plastic cover over the thing.

And yep, it’s the main computer for the car which controls the electronic transmission etc. Immediate full on engine-shuts-off at speed on the freeway and you require a flatbed to tow it away level of broken. I’m sure the engine ECU is in the engine bay, but holy hell what a surprise!

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kube-systemtoday at 12:38 AM

Hehe I was thinking about FCA/Stellantis vehicles when I wrote that. I know it works and there are components made to work in that environment but it always felt intuitively wrong to me. Especially when the other side of the firewall is a much better environment and not far away

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cuvinnytoday at 1:30 AM

Could be because they sale crate engines.

yearolinuxdsktptoday at 12:42 AM

Yes they do. They can tolerate engine bay heat, but not exhaust heat. They are usually shielded from getting soaked.

Some Mazdas put the metal-cased engine computer in a plastic air box that feeds cold air from the front, to help ensure the engine computer stays cool enough.

In general, I believe the cooling airflow from the frontal air and the cooling fans keeps engine bay in check.

For example, this is the board that’s used in Mazda CX-5 2017+ engine computers (mfr Denso), it lists max temperature range of +150C: https://www.renesas.com/en/document/mah/rh850e1l-users-manua...

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