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Real_Egortoday at 1:47 AM2 repliesview on HN

I'll probably be the skeptic here, but:

- Take a person who grew up playing video games. They'll pass these tests 100% without even breaking a sweat.

- BUT, put a grandmother who has never used a computer in front of this game, and she'll most likely fail completely. Just like an LLM.

As soon as models are "natively" trained on a massive dataset of these types of games, they'll easily adapt and start crushing these challenges.

This is not AGI at all.


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dgfltoday at 2:48 AM

Isn’t this what AGI is by design? People CAN learn to become good at videogames. Modern LLMs can’t, they have to be retrained from scratch (I consider pre-training to be a completely different process than learning). I also don’t necessarily agree that a grandma would fail. Give her enough motivation and a couple days and she’ll manage these.

My main criticism would be that it doesn’t seem like this test allows online learning, which is what humans do (over the scale of days to years). So in practice it may still collapse to what you point out, but not because the task is unsuited to showing AGI.

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slideherotoday at 2:10 AM

had the same thought.

I've been a gamer for just about 40 years. Gaming is my "thing"

I found the challenges fun, but easy. Coming back and reading comments from people struggling with the games, my first thought was - yup definitely not a gamer.

My approach was to poke at the controls to suss the rules, then the actual solutions were really straightforward.

fwiw, I'm pretty dumb generally, but these kinds of puzzles are my jam.

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