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hydroflame7yesterday at 8:01 PM11 repliesview on HN

'Predictions' market is the silliest loophole for gambling. Honestly, more surprised Fanduel, DraftKings and the like who have spent millions on lobbying and buying licenses, are not fighting tooth and nail on this.


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heavyset_goyesterday at 8:11 PM

If I made a platform like that, I'd be RICO'd after the FBI kicked down my door and confiscated everything I own.

If I had the connections Polymarket does, well, then we can just place bets on when people will die, everything will work out just fine and the President will invest in me.

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sam0x17yesterday at 8:34 PM

Especially when the "prediction" part isn't even part of the product, it is an accidental byproduct. No one pays for access to the predictions.

And they aren't predictions, they are more like "outcome-shaping" markets, since the more liquidity that gets dumped on a particular outcome, the more motivation there is to tamper with the real-world outcome, and at a certain point it will just always happen if it is billions of dollars.

The higher the liquidity involved, the less likely the real world outcome ends up being the same as it would have been if the prediction market had never existed. Very messy.

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cryptoegorophyyesterday at 8:21 PM

And there is a kid’s legal version! They sell them in Walmart - Pokémon packs. I don’t know how any of this is legal in a civilized country.

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bluetideproyesterday at 8:05 PM

I believe they are (maybe indirectly on some though): https://www.actionnetwork.com/education/tracking-prediction-...

bkoyesterday at 8:17 PM

I prefer prediction markets to gambling because the platform isn't the bookmaker. This reduces the adverse selection of players. For instance, if you actually win regularly on these platforms they'll actually ban you, much like a casino. My understanding of prediction markets is that it's pure market making which is preferable

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qoezyesterday at 8:09 PM

They totally are tho. And at the same time trying to win via the loophole if it doesn't close by launching their own efforts

owlninjayesterday at 8:14 PM

Actually I believe DraftKings just added a prediction market...

HWR_14yesterday at 8:12 PM

Kalshi has Trump Jr on its board and is federally regulated. I'm not sure FanDuel and DraftKings will win that fight for the next 3 years.

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skippyboxedheroyesterday at 9:49 PM

Both have a prediction market product.

paulddraperyesterday at 8:20 PM

It truly is insane.

The CFTC is granting "no-action" exemptions on the basis of....nothing, really.

The "educational" value of these markets.

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Ferret7446yesterday at 8:46 PM

Actually, prediction markets are closer to stock markets (insofar as you consider stock trading to be gambling). Insider trading is the bigger issue

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