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frumplestlatzyesterday at 9:11 PM4 repliesview on HN

> but would be sad to be banned.

Enforcing the existing and long-standing sex-based classification is not a ban; competition within one’s own sex category was always and remains permitted.


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TimorousBestieyesterday at 9:40 PM

This kind of argument was not persuasive when Alito deployed it for his pedantic dissent in Bostock v. Clayton County [0, specifically p. 17], and it remains not persuasive now.

[0] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf

erxamyesterday at 9:33 PM

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sintlplyesterday at 9:20 PM

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etherusyesterday at 9:28 PM

If you were required to compete with people of a gender you do not identify with, even when event organisers recognise you as more fitting among the other group, that's a ban. There are trans masc people. Requiring them to compete with women is unfair and disrespectful. Requiring trans fem people to do so is the same. The rules around gender identification in regulated sports require proof of medical treatment yada yada to accept that people are 'trans enough', which is itself discriminatory. Trans people are a lot less distinct and separate from everyone else than you'd be led to think.

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