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tyingqtoday at 1:36 PM13 repliesview on HN

Sounds like it's not real but...

It reads like an indictment of the government employee personally, rather than the rules and constraints that employee is forced to use.

Probably fair to comment on the interaction, whether the person was rude, and so on. But blaming them for not accepting email is kind of silly. They are not empowered to do that kind of thing.


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GlenTheMachinetoday at 5:31 PM

“ It reads like an indictment of the government employee personally”

As a government employee: it often is the employee personally. Not always, but surprisingly often. There is a type of mid-level bureaucrat who just can’t be bothered to make anyone else’s life easier, even if they can. It’s just easier not to, and over time that becomes its own form of malice. The tales I could tell you about security officers basically abusing their power in order to make their own lives as easy as possible, while making everyone else’s live almost impossible…

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miki123211today at 1:52 PM

I, as a user with 10k+ karma on HN, can testify that the author has all the hallmarks of a real blind person (active in blind communities and so on). I don't have any evidence suggesting that the author ever engaged in deceptive behavior.

In other words, my P(real) > 0.99.

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nickfftoday at 4:53 PM

I've heard this justification many times, but it's highly questionable. Imagine someone works for an organization, and 'the rules and constraints' require them to murder (without legal consequence) innocent people on a regular basis; is this morally justifiable? What if their 'job description' does not include 'murder', but they do indeed have to murder an innocent person each month because of the 'rules and constraints'? What if instead of occasional murder, they just have to subject many innocent people to suffering because of 'the rules and constraints'?

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unsupp0rtedtoday at 3:10 PM

It is and should be an indictment of the employee personally only in the sense that the employee's tone and manner likely conveyed to OP that she thinks of him as a pothole or a buzzing fly: something you have to deal with, rather than someone who needs to be helped.

Not that she has any power to help him really. I would guess OP is more upset by the dehumanization in her tone, rather than the dehumanization of the system she works within.

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hrimfaxitoday at 1:37 PM

The person is an agent of the system. That they bear the brunt of the reaction is the system working as intended.

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raybbtoday at 2:46 PM

Seems like something DOGE should have tackled early if they actually cared about making the government effecient. I guess making the lives of the disabled easier isn't flashy enough.

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wyldfiretoday at 5:42 PM

> blaming them for not accepting email is kind of silly.

I definitely agree - but if the organization creates pain as an externality, then there's no incentive for them to change. Making them realize the cost of their decisions seems appropriate and just and not-even-abusive. Yelling at the person on the phone is bad and doesn't help anyone. Malicious compliance like this helps motivate them to escalate their concerns to people who can change the policy.

idontwantthistoday at 4:28 PM

The most unreal part is Karen calling him back. I never get called back by anyone in any office anymore.

InsideOutSantatoday at 2:07 PM

Yeah, this anger is entirely misplaced. I don't think this woman is happy to have to enforce this idiotic law and listen to angry people all day long. It's the politicians that people like us elected because they promised to cut wasteful spending, so now blind people have to prove they're still blind once a year. We did that to them.

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create_accountstoday at 3:37 PM

I hate it when bureaucrats ask me to send e-mails because they are not encrypted. Specially my ID. It's a security risk, indeed

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James_Ktoday at 3:35 PM

She could have accepted the Email, then printed the documents off and said it was faxed. I highly doubt anyone checks.

cucumber3732842today at 1:58 PM

>It reads like an indictment of the government employee personality in general, and the rules and constraints that employee is forced to use.

Fixed that for you. That's how it should read.

Not only is the system questionable in a "the bricks may be individual defensible but the road goes right to hell" way but the kind of people such a system first creates (nobody signs up to be a cop just to strangle black guys over petty BS, nobody signs up to work in the disability office to give legit cases the runaround, etc, these people became this way) and then retains are not necessarily great.

And before anyone screeches at me, yes there's plenty of areas of private industry that are just as bad.

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