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embedding-shapetoday at 5:49 PM0 repliesview on HN

I use both, almost on a daily basis, but spend most of my time in Linux (Arch btw).

Both of them deserve equal amount of shame because they're both trying to do the same, force you to have an online account associated with a local user profile, either directly or indirectly.

Not sure why it has to be a contest who "we should shame the most" or whatever, how about saying both of them suck when it comes to this?