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Imnimoyesterday at 10:38 PM7 repliesview on HN

It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.


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raincoletoday at 5:07 AM

Quite sure even literal thieves would consider thievery a form of abuse.

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nikitagayesterday at 11:53 PM

Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things.

The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less.

It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity in this case is quite superficial.

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ProofHouseyesterday at 11:44 PM

The irony is thick

sabedevopsyesterday at 10:45 PM

Seriously. The hypocrisy is staggering!

Aurornistoday at 12:25 AM

I interpreted scraping to mean in the context of this:

> we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users

I have no doubt that many people see the free ChatGPT access as a convenient target for browser automation to get their own free ChatGPT pseudo-API.

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zer00eyzyesterday at 11:00 PM

" Integrity at OpenAI .. protect ... abuse like bots, scraping, fraud "

Did you mean to use the word hypocrisy. If not, I'm happy to have said it.

I just want to note, that it is well covered how good the support is for actual malware...

heyethantoday at 2:14 AM

I think the distinction is less about scraping itself, and more about marginal cost.

Scraping static pages is cheap for both sides. Scraping an LLM-backed service effectively externalizes compute costs onto the provider.

Same behavior, very different economics.

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