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throwaway27448yesterday at 10:59 PM0 repliesview on HN

This is a great answer. I lost the bet. I suspect even this falls apart if you consider the bill of materials, though.

Look my point is that commodity fetishization is real, it protects our entire economy, and once you look deeper/underneath the hood/covers, many reasonable prices become violations of our personal values. With such insanely complex and largely offshore supply chains, laptops and phones (and servers etc) become very problematic devices that we nonetheless rely on.