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eloisiustoday at 6:39 AM2 repliesview on HN

Also wild that from the tech bro perspective, the cost of journalism is just how much data transfer costs for the finished article. Authors spend their blood, sweat and tears writing and then OpenAI comes to Hoover it up without a care in the world about license, copyright or what constitutes fair use. But don’t you dare scrape their slop.


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mikkupikkutoday at 10:25 AM

Traditionally in America, the value of newspapers is predominantly their up to date news, not their archive, which traditionally could be accessed and read for free by anybody that cares to visit the local library. You pay for recent newspapers, the archive is free.

Anyway, intellectual property is a dumb joke. It will never benefit the little man, you don't have the resources to lawyer up like the big corps do, so screw the whole premise. If you're not taking what you want for free, you're a servile worm crawling around on your belly in a futile attempt to earn favor from inhuman corporations that will never notice you, let alone reward you. Stand up, man.

lelanthrantoday at 8:48 AM

> Also wild that from the tech bro perspective, the cost of journalism is just how much data transfer costs for the finished article.

Exactly. I think the unfairness can be mitigated if models trained on public information, or on data generated by a model trained on public information, or has any of those two in its ancestry, must be made public.

Then we don't have to hit (for example) Anthropic, we can download and use the models as we see fit without Anthropic whining that the users are using too much capacity.