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msteffentoday at 5:16 PM2 repliesview on HN

> what happens is that, as in software, certain ideas get ossified. That’s why, for example, every OS has a POSIX layer even though technically the process/namespace/security model could be radically reimagined possibly to create more easily engineered, correct software.

Total amateur here, but it strikes me that one important difference is that performance matters in software in a way that it doesn’t in mathematics—that is, all proofs are equally valid modulo elegance. That means that abstractions in software are leaky in a way that abstractions in mathematics aren’t.

In other words, in software, the same systems get reused in large part because they’ve been heavily refined, in terms of performance, unexpected corner-case behavior and performance pitfalls, documentation of the above, and general familiarity to and acceptance by the community. In math, if you lay new foundations, build some new abstraction, and prove that it’s at least as powerful to the old one, I’d think that you’d be “done” with replacing it. (Maybe downstream proofs would need some new import statements?)

Is this not the case? Where are people getting stuck that they shouldn’t be?


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enricozbtoday at 7:33 PM

Proof irrelevance I don't think is accepted in constructivist situations. Those are, however, not that relevant to the recent wave of AI math which uses Lean, whose type system includes classical mathematics.

doogliustoday at 5:17 PM

Agreed; e.g. if you prove something about the real numbers, the matter of how R is constructed out of your axiomatic system doesn't matter

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