Fair question. When I think "$50/plate", I'm thinking $50 for just the dinner main course, not including drinks, appetizer, or dessert.
> Do something more casual first time around. Bar, coffee/walk, whatever.
The problem with that is there are women that will scoff at a man trying to do something casual like coffee, tea, or ice cream for a first date. They want to be wined and dined and treated like a princess right off the bat. They think they're a prize to be won simply by being a woman.
Though I truly believe that most women are not like this. However, some are, and their attitude is probably what keeps them perpetually single.
The problem with that is there are women that will scoff at a man trying to do something casual like coffee, tea, or ice cream for a first date.
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If the idea of a causal first date appeals to you, but not to the other party, you probably aren't a good match. Swipe left and find somebody else.
If somebody gave me shade for a casual first date before we’ve even met in person that’s not someone I’d want to take on a date anyway. Not even saying they’re wrong or unreasonable, just think that if someone is vocally complaining about that maybe we aren’t a good fit.
You clearly think it’s poor behavior so why are you worried about striking out with them?
> The problem with that is there are women that will scoff at a man trying to do something casual like coffee, tea, or ice cream for a first date.
You're using the casual meeting as a filter for certain personalities.
There are plenty of people out there who prefer a more formalized approach to dating, and good for them. You have a different preference. Being selective is good because it saves both of you time and there are no hard feelings.
> They want to be wined and dined and treated like a princess right off the bat. They think they're a prize to be won simply by being a woman.
Thinking about people you aren't interested in will just grind your gears.