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steveklabnikyesterday at 8:28 PM1 replyview on HN

> that's the sentiment anyone who has been around in the community long enough and dealt with Andre has about him.

Not an accurate characterization.

There are some people who do feel this way. But it's not everyone, by a long shot.

You are right that this ten year long interpersonal beef is ultimately at the root of all of this.


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busterarmyesterday at 11:15 PM

Honestly fair. There's a little too much of my personal distaste with his actions coming through here.

I think it's fairer to say that if you know him and you are in the community than you know that these opinions of him are had. That is not normal.

I also want to make it clear that there is a separation here. I do not think that Andre is a malicious or bad person. I just have questions about his decision-making based on things he's said & actions that he's taken and that leads me to think that he is untrustworthy. Not in the "will steal from me" sense but in the "will fuck up shit that I care about" sense (which ultimately he did, at least partly, whether through direct actions or poorly maintained relationships with key people). I work with this kind of infrastructure though and that's the kind of attitude that you want to have towards people to be able to do this job effectively. I don't trust a lot of people -- I want any access they have to be out in the open, limited to what's needed, etc. Governance of the project/organization was obviously a shit-show.

When I say that it's obvious to cut ties with him, I'm looking at it from the perspective of someone responsible for a high-profile project. I would make that decision 10 times out of 10 without regret. They still absolutely bungled the crap out of how that went down.

Also, I hate that this crap gets associated with the "Ruby Community". It's really just a subset of the western Ruby ecosystem that cares about foundations and events and semi-social functions. Ruby's core and a whole ecosystem of people working on and around Ruby couldn't give a crap about any of this and it's all just a massive inconvenience. Meanwhile on boards like this everyone is planting their flags and trying to exploit chaos to create change in critical services that people absolutely depend on.