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pedromayesterday at 2:57 AM1 replyview on HN

Let's not extend this beyond the European opinion, especially since it's obvious that East Asia does not share the same point of view. East Asia and Europe have very different threats that shape their opinion of the US fundamentally. Europe does not have China breathing down their neck, and with Russia bogged down they have even less to worry about. Europe can freely reject the US, which is what this chain of comments is about, the popular European sentiment. In contrast, if there's anti-US sentiment in Taiwan, it would be in a minority and publicly disagreed with as their nation's existence hinges on positive US sentiment. To a lesser degree, the same thing in other East Asian countries.


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ImPostingOnHNyesterday at 5:22 PM

> Let's not extend this beyond the European opinion

Too late! You already did!

> it's obvious that East Asia does not share the same point of view

It's quite obvious that East Asia, and any other regions containing a country being slighted by the US, does share that point of view: that the US can no longer be relied upon. Countries around the world are diversifying their investments of time, effort, and favor, away from the USA.

This clearly surprises you. It is indeed shocking: that's how far the USA has fallen, *globally*, in only a year or so.

> In contrast, if there's anti-US sentiment in Taiwan

Nobody said anything about "anti-US". We're simply talking about trusting that a country can be relied upon [0]. After seeing USA's behavior over the last year, Taiwan is understandably increasingly concerned that the US cannot be relied upon to defend against a Chinese invasion.

And they're right! Based on the track record of the USA's ruler, they can expect:

1. To be coerced into falsifying information to help the ruler's political campaign, and/or

2. To be told to pay for the help (possibly by allowing the USA to annex some territory), making it not help, but a basic transaction, and/or

3. To be told they would be helped, but then left high and dry when the time comes to help, and/or

4. For the USA to themselves start a war between China and Taiwan, to distract from media coverage of said ruler's involvement with a human-trafficking/child-sex ring.

All of these things have already been done by the ruler. We can reasonably expect him to do them again.

> which is what this chain of comments is about, the popular European sentiment

Again, it's the common *global* sentiment. You are the only one seeming to claim it is limited to Europeans, which is an incorrect claim. Beyond that, are you simply observing that the common European sentiment over the last year (negative) reflects the common global sentiment over the last year (negative), or was there a deeper point?

0 –https://www.gmfus.org/news/taiwans-growing-distrust-united-s...

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