alt Hacker NewsBad by whose definition? They work really well in my experience. They aren't perfect but the amount of hand holding has gone down dramatically and you can fix any glaring problems with a code review at the end. I work on a multimillion line code base which does not use any popular frameworks and it does a great job. I may be benefiting from the fact that the codebase is open source and all models have obviously been trained on it.
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> They work really well in my experience.
Yeahhh strong disagree there, I find Codex and CC to be buggy as hell. Desktop CC is very bad and web version is nigh unusable.
At least Gemini and Claude constantly break down with scrolling in various Linux terminals, something which was solved by countless TUIs decades ago.
I think a lot of the people prasing Claude & co are on Macs.
It takes 10 seconds for Gemini CLI to load. 10 seconds to show an input field. This is for a CLI program.
For comparison, it takes me less time to load Chrome and go to gemini.google.com.