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Spooky23yesterday at 11:34 PM1 replyview on HN

Tesla is a great example. It’s 30% retail, 25% elon and insiders, and the remainder institutional, mostly index funds.

The investment thesis for Tesla is absurd. They built the market cap on hype and it got big enough that it remains a force. It’s a flailing company, kept afloat by bullshit.

The bigger issue is the death of small cap. Massive venture, sovereign wealth and PE funds don’t need the public market capital anymore, so they harvest the vslue and spit out the company late in the value cycle.

Snap, cool as it is, is a social media loser. The investors cashed out their shares to the public, who took the loss.


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lotsofpulptoday at 1:27 AM

> The investment thesis for Tesla is absurd. They built the market cap on hype and it got big enough that it remains a force. It’s a flailing company, kept afloat by bullshit.

Maybe, or maybe they are one of the few businesses people want to bet on to be able to create new streams of revenue. Intel used to be big, and now it isn’t. It being big didn’t help stop its demise.

> The investors cashed out their shares to the public, who took the loss.

They didn’t. The biggest investors, the founders, still have almost 50% of the shares. Also, SNAP peaked at $131B in September 2021, 2 years after SNAP went public at $27B.

Would you have written then that “The investors cashed out their shares to the public, who took the loss”?

Of course not. Because index fund investors did not cause it to go to $131B, and they didn’t cause it to go to $6B.

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