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jimbokunyesterday at 2:43 PM1 replyview on HN

You still have many people consuming and not producing, and much fewer people producing.

Capitalism or socialism doesn’t change that.


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runarbergyesterday at 4:54 PM

I am sure Malthusians could find similar reasons for why collapse was inevitable as the population grew.

For example I can imagine a young Malthus debating with the elderly Adam Smith, and Smith saying something like: “When societies open up their markets, those big bulk carrying cargo ships will be able to ship the required food to the food scarce areas. And when they do, they will enrich them selves as well as the farmers whom they buy the crops from, as the price of the grain will be much higher in these over-populated regions”.

The young Malthus, however, is not convinced and will reply: „Then the population will still grow, both in that ‘new market’ (as you call it), and among the farmers whom acquire that new wealth; and eventually those farmers will make wars or famine with the neighbors and those merchants over the scars resources. Societal collapse is inevitable.“