logoalt Hacker News

Aurornisyesterday at 2:46 PM1 replyview on HN

Many Gemma implementations are or were broken on launch day. The first attempts to fix llama.cpp’s tokenizer were merged hours ago.

Everyone hated Qwen3.5 at launch too because so many implementations were broken and couldn’t do tool calling.

You need to ignore social media “I tried this and it sucks” echo chambers for new model releases.


Replies

mark_l_watsonyesterday at 3:34 PM

I agree with your criticism. I should have simply said that I had good results with gemma 4 tool use, and agentic coding with gemma 4 didn’t yet work well for me.