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The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

234 pointsby detaroyesterday at 11:56 PM59 commentsview on HN

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Aurornistoday at 1:15 AM

Flying a drone within 1/2 mile of ICE vehicles, which may be unmarked, is illegal? You can be flying a drone and if an unmarked ICE vehicle drives close enough, without warning, you have now broken serious FAA laws? This isn’t the kind of restriction that gets passed when the people making the rules care about being fair or consistent. It’s a power grab.

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youknownothingtoday at 1:49 AM

IANAL but mens rea is a serious consideration here. A prosecutor would have to prove that you have knowingly and wilfully committed the crime in order to be convicted, so unmarked cars are in practice out of scope.

I think the main implication is that you won't be able to use any drone recordings for legal action against ICE unless you can prove that you recorded from further than 3,000 feet (one hell of a camera) or that you did it "accidentally", e.g. I was just filming my friends and ICE agents suddenly busted out of an unmarked car that happened to be within the frame. Even then, you'd have to stop recording pretty soon because at that point they could argue that it becomes wilful recording.

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anonymousiamtoday at 2:59 AM

I'm not taking sides here, but it seems that the government may have some legitimate reasons for this restriction. The anti-ICE protesters have been well organized, well equipped, and sometimes violent. I have no knowledge of them using drones up to this point, but they certainly could have used them for the purposes of collecting intelligence on their targets (who are federal law enforcement agents). The intelligence they collect could be used for the purposes of planning attacks, assaults, or interference.

Obviously, media organizations should have a right to use drones for filming ICE operations for the purposes of reporting, and restricting them is likely a First Amendment violation.

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jddeckertoday at 1:05 AM

How does this work if they are not clearly defined on a map? Usually TFRs are shown on drone maps so you know where you can fly.

If I am flying my drone and an unmarked ICE vehicle drives within half a mile am I in trouble?

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tomrodtoday at 12:42 AM

I agree with the EFF here. Government operators must operate in the daylight.

vkoutoday at 1:05 AM

How exactly is anyone supposed to comply with this, given that neither the FAA nor ICE are telling anyone where ICE vehicles and operations are.

(The answer is obvious - it's impossible to comply with it.)

Herringtoday at 1:53 AM

Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance.

Support for such measures (welfare, healthcare, unionization, high taxes etc) is usually low among Americans.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/welfare-cuts...

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jauntywundrkindtoday at 1:01 AM

In general the Trump administration is the most emergency based folks on the planet. If it's not for emergency reasons, it's for national security reasons. None of it is explained or backed. They just take the hallpass and fuck off to do whatever the hell they like.

Axios had good coverage of this. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/18/trump-national-emergency-de...

Brazen mis-governance. I think it's particularly insulting to call so many things emergencies, threats. This is the work of the rankest, lowest cowards, to sabotage our nation with such false lightly thrown around accusations, for such fake purposes. Exploitative creeps!

Edit: what timing! Oh look, new Constitutional crisis just dropped, with Trump again seizing the power of the purse from congress! He's declaring rule over OMB to fund DHS, because (you guessed it) National Emergency!! https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/04/libe...

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